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Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:32 pm
by Leisher
GORDON wrote:Saw a Facebook thing with his face, it said, "if this scumbag doesn't represent all of islam, then why does he represent all gun owners?"
So fucking true.
Especially in light of the New York Daily "News" front page that's riling up the anti-gun nuts.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:47 pm
by Malcolm
Wow.
Here are some other fascinating numbers for you:
Well over 100 million guns have been sold in the United States since Barack Obama was elected president, including almost 20 million last year alone.
There are over 357 million privately owned guns in the United States.
This year, of the 23,158 people who have been shot, only 711 — just barely three percent — were in self defense.
There were 1,043 people shot by accident.
For every person shot in self defense, there were two minors shot (1,520).
It means people in general are getting stupider and can't be trusted with simple tasks like, "Keep guns away from those who don't know how to use them properly, including me." You can happily sell idiots like that weapons under certain circumstances if you're greedy enough.

Cars, booze, and ciggies kill more people. Fuck off until you talk about regulating 1.5-ton, gasoline powered killing machines as harshly as you do firearms.
The NRA has spent well over $50 million to see that nothing changes since — literally — a classroom full of children were murdered.
Because one dude in an entire building had a gun and that put him at the top of the food chain.
The real solution here lies with us. The sane, rational, thinking voters. The NRA can buy your congressman, but they cannot buy your vote.
What is their stance on two things?
Closing the loophole that allows felons to buy guns without a background check if they’re purchased privately.
Limit the type of guns that can be sold. There is no good reason you need to be able to shoot 180 people in a minute.
This election, make yourself a one-issue voter if you have to. Refuse to vote for anyone in the pocket of the NRA. Change in gun laws won’t come until the change in the Congress. And that change won’t come until we force it.
Emphasis mine. Also, unless you have a 180-round mag, you can't fire 180 rounds in a minute. You sure as shit can't fire off 3 rounds per second and hope to maintain accuracy for 60 seconds straight unless you're literally shooting at the broad side of a goddamn barn or something else big and stationary.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:20 am
by Malcolm
They've got his Droid. Looks like the feds will be shopping around for another third-party security agency.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:06 am
by Vince
Malcolm wrote:Wow.
Here are some other fascinating numbers for you:
Well over 100 million guns have been sold in the United States since Barack Obama was elected president, including almost 20 million last year alone.
There are over 357 million privately owned guns in the United States.
This year, of the 23,158 people who have been shot, only 711 — just barely three percent — were in self defense.
There were 1,043 people shot by accident.
For every person shot in self defense, there were two minors shot (1,520).
Haven't gone through the numbers to check, but assuming that the leftist authoritarian state HuffPo is using the usual crap numbers, the total number shot will include suicides, the "people shot by accident" will include bystanders in gang drive-bys, and the minors shot will also include underage gang members.
The 711 self defense shootings don't tell the whole story either. One government report (commissioned under Obama) showed up to 3.3 million defensive gun uses per year. Often simply brandishing the weapon or firing a warning shot is enough to deter a would-be criminal.
People that believe the Huffington Post in dealing with gun stats also believe John Holmes when he said he had degrees in Physical therapy and political science.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:53 am
by Leisher
Motives being discussed.
But questions also emerged over whether Mateen was conflicted about his own sexuality. Jim Van Horn, 71, said Mateen was a "regular" at the popular Pulse nightclub where he'd later take hostages and leave 49 dead. "He was trying to pick up people. Men," Van Horn told The Associated Press late Monday outside the Parliament House, another gay club.
The MSM should be running with this in a big way. This would drastically take the teeth out of the attack and the Islamic extremism aspect of it.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:02 am
by GORDON
Speaking of the beautiful religion and culture of islam, why did we stop hearing about immigrant crimes in Europe? Have they all assimilated already?
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:12 am
by Alhazad
GORDON wrote:Speaking of the beautiful religion and culture of islam, why did we stop hearing about immigrant crimes in Europe? Have they all assimilated already?
No news is no longer good news. No news is no ad revenue.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:29 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:Speaking of the beautiful religion and culture of islam, why did we stop hearing about immigrant crimes in Europe? Have they all assimilated already?
Still happening?
People not reporting?
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:18 pm
by Vince
This is the thing that I said would get Trump elected if happened.
Happening while Obama was giving his speech about how this is not Islam.
God help me, the left is going to keep on with the stupid until I vote for Trump.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:21 pm
by Malcolm
I can see no scenario in which voting for Trump makes things better for anyone.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:22 pm
by GORDON
I'd like to see 5 predictive scenarios where Islam is banned in the USA, and those who wont drop it as a religion are deported.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:25 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:I'd like to see 5 predictive scenarios where Islam is banned in the USA, and those who wont drop it as a religion are deported.
Fuck that shit. I want to see Chappelle again.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:26 pm
by GORDON
I'm in the "and nothing of value was lost" camp, but that's why I want to see other predictions. My imagination is just not that good.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:27 pm
by Malcolm
Radical Islamic cleric wishes more gay people died.
“People say, like: Well, aren’t you sad that 50 sodomites died?” Jimenez said, referencing the initial death toll in Orlando, which authorities later clarified included 49 victims plus the gunman. “Here’s the problem with that. It’s like the equivalent of asking me — what if you asked me: Hey, are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today?’
“Um, no, I think that’s great. I think that helps society. You know, I think Orlando, Fla., is a little safer tonight.”
He added: “The tragedy is that more of them didn’t die. The tragedy is — I’m kind of upset that he didn’t finish the job!”
Oh shit, wait. I meant "Baptist cleric." My bad.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:36 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:I'm in the "and nothing of value was lost" camp, but that's why I want to see other predictions. My imagination is just not that good.
Up until a few days ago, you'd also be kicking out Muhammad Ali. You'd still be booting Mike Tyson, Shaq, Iman, Mos Def, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars, fuck knows how many CEOs, etc., and every single Muslim veteran.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:36 pm
by GORDON
Bye!
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:39 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Bye!
and every single Muslim veteran.
The members of the armed service appreciate it.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:40 pm
by GORDON
The Fort Hood shooter will be upset, that's for sure.
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:03 pm
by Leisher
Malcolm wrote:I can see no scenario in which voting for Trump makes things better for anyone.
What if he promised everyone would get a blowjob if he won?
I mean, how different is that from promising that you won't have to pay for school or healthcare?
Re: Islam - the thread of peace and tolerance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:05 pm
by GORDON
Ok, but since we live in The Twilight Zone.... a blowjob from WHO?