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Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:09 am**

I smell fall guy.

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:25 pm**

thibodeaux wrote:I smell fall guy.

Yeah, but sometimes the dudes in charge of shit are insulated from the illegalities enough so that the patsy's all you get.

Edited By Malcolm on 1224782774

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:27 pm**

Malcolm wrote:
thibodeaux wrote:I smell fall guy.
Yeah, but sometimes the dudes in charge of shit are insulated from the illegalities enough so that the patsy's all you get.

Just like Enron.

The captain is responsible for everything that happens on the ship. Everyone in charge of ACORN should be up on charges right now.

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:28 pm**

GORDON wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
thibodeaux wrote:I smell fall guy.

Yeah, but sometimes the dudes in charge of shit are insulated from the illegalities enough so that the patsy's all you get.

Just like Enron.

The captain is responsible for everything that happens on the ship. Everyone in charge of ACORN should be up on charges right now.

Not according to the legal system. You need direct, concrete evidence. & if that dude just said he did everything, then it sounds like he's taking the hit.

Edited By Malcolm on 1224782915

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:45 pm**

GORDON wrote:The captain is responsible for everything that happens on the ship. Everyone in charge of ACORN should be up on charges right now.

That's absolute crap. There's no way people can know what every other person is doing with all the people in a company.

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:08 pm**

If anyone wants to come from anywhere in the world to vote in Ohio, apparently that's ok, now.

Or something.

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live....sid=101

Elections officials cannot challenge voters on Election Day or reject absentee ballots based solely on discrepancies from verifying new voter registrations, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said yesterday in directives to counties.

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:12 pm**

TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote:The captain is responsible for everything that happens on the ship. Everyone in charge of ACORN should be up on charges right now.
That's absolute crap. There's no way people can know what every other person is doing with all the people in a company.

Relatedly, for America II I would like to propose that liability for the actions of a company should be shared among it's owners. If it's a sole proprietership, then those owners pay any fines or do jail time if required by the courts. If it's a publically traded company then any fines or jail sentances is split up on a per share basis.

Sure this means that investors are exposed to liability where they are not now. But on the other hand if this is the way things were done you'd have companies tripping over themselves to be as proper and ethical as possible so as to court investors. Rumors of impropriety would be as bad for their bottom line as rumors of a bad quarter's profits.

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:39 pm**

Interesting idea.

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:49 pm**

Of course at umpteen million shares on the market, the average investor caught up in something like this would see a jail sentance on the close order of a couple of minutes. So middle-class investors wouldn't really be effected, just the big money. But it might still make a difference.

Especially when you've got CEOs who are given their bonuses in blocks of company shares.

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:35 pm**

GORDON wrote:If anyone wants to come from anywhere in the world to vote in Ohio, apparently that's ok, now.

Or something.

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live....sid=101

Elections officials cannot challenge voters on Election Day or reject absentee ballots based solely on discrepancies from verifying new voter registrations, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said yesterday in directives to counties.

This woman is single handedly trying to make it impossible for Ohio to have a fair election. She's already been ruled against by the Ohio Supreme Court for violating the law.

I just don't understand how people can see shit like this and not see what this cunt (I apologize to our female members, but that's the best term to describe her.) is trying to do.

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Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:02 pm**

Election fraud an "honest mistake," so no charges even when they are caught.

OHIO!

http://www.nbc4i.com/midwest....28.html

Posted: **Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:38 pm**

Military absentee ballots being tossed in Virginia.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archive....fai.php

Posted: **Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:50 pm**

GORDON wrote:Military absentee ballots being tossed in Virginia.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archive....fai.php

That's some extreme bullshit. They're bitching about voters not filling out forms correctly? Fuck you. That's the same reason why it's taking me a semester to file for graduation as opposed to the 2 weeks it should've taken.

Posted: **Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:07 pm**

It's like the state of virginia is trying to piss off their own armed citizens by disenfranchising them. I'm pretty sure wars have started that way.

Posted: **Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:20 pm**

Malcolm wrote:That's some extreme bullshit. They're bitching about voters not filling out forms correctly? Fuck you. That's the same reason why it's taking me a semester to file for graduation as opposed to the 2 weeks it should've taken.

What's worse is the forms didn't have the proper fields in order to be filled out according to the laws requirements.

Posted: **Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:32 pm**

So is a single fall guy gong to account for this?

The folks over at ACORN - Barack Obama's favorite "community organizers" - now admit that more than 30 percent of the 1.3 million voter-registration forms they submitted this year were rejected by election officials nationwide.

http://www.nypost.com/seven....225.htm

Posted: **Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:36 pm**

13 Obama workers withdrew their registrations in Ohio after they were told they were illegal.

http://www.nypost.com/seven....152.htm

That's swell of them.

So they are either idiots, or dishonest.

Hope. Change.

Posted: **Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:07 pm**

GORDON wrote:So is a single fall guy gong to account for this?

The folks over at ACORN - Barack Obama's favorite "community organizers" - now admit that more than 30 percent of the 1.3 million voter-registration forms they submitted this year were rejected by election officials nationwide.
http://www.nypost.com/seven....225.htm

They're still claiming incompetency & quotas as opposed to any malicious intent. Being a moron is still legal ... for now. Evidence. Concrete. Damning. I see none. Whatever it is they're doing, it appears to be working as no one really high up on the food chain has been nicked yet. Maybe later.

Politicians & those who hang 'round them are adept at bending the law. Contrary to popular belief, a few of them have half a brain, legally speaking.

Posted: **Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:18 pm**

"ACORN: We're not crooked, just dumb!"

Posted: **Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:31 pm**

I was told tonight by an otherwise intelligent person that there is no voter fraud going on, and that anything negative you hear about Obama is just right-wing lies.

It makes me very sad.

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