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When the federal budget has... what... tripled since 2000?

Does it feel like we're getting 3x better government, since 2000?

I assumed that was his point.
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This.

I'm just really, really burnt out on stupidity right now.

I think Loki was right. People do want to be ruled.
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HSBC cancels plans to layoff 35,000 people despite profits falling 50%.

Their pre-tax profits fell to $3.2B, which really makes you wonder how they stay in business...

Still, very classy move to cancel their layoffs plans during the C-19 pandemic.
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HSBC can go fuck themselves. I've had a lot of credit cards over my many years, and they BY FAR were the dirties players. Just shitty shitty shitty people. The worst. If they are delaying it, it's because laying them off would have benefited the employees somehow.
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1st quarter GDP shrank 4.8% vs 3.5% expected.
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Cakedaddy wrote: ALL of the apps for money have been easy (Unemployment has been the biggest headache). "Here's my W-3 and/or 940 from 2019 and I'm not a felon, or an idiot". The problem, is getting in fast enough to get processed and paid before the money runs out. I was processed today with my bank. So I actually have two apps for the PPP loan right now at two different banks. Whoever gets it done first. . .
How's that process going? I did my application Sunday, my application was marked "completed" on Wednesday. No update on submittal, though.
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Cakedaddy wrote: ALL of the apps for money have been easy (Unemployment has been the biggest headache). "Here's my W-3 and/or 940 from 2019 and I'm not a felon, or an idiot". The problem, is getting in fast enough to get processed and paid before the money runs out. I was processed today with my bank. So I actually have two apps for the PPP loan right now at two different banks. Whoever gets it done first. . .
How's that process going? I did my application Sunday, my application was marked "completed" on Wednesday. No update on submittal, though.
Looks like I'm getting funded.
Your Paycheck Protection Program loan has been approved
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Your loan has been approved and funds will be deposited within 1-2 business days into the account you noted on your application.
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My application was accepted by the bank and was being reviewed for accuracy before being sent to SBA for processing. That was about a week ago. I have not heard anything since.

On a different front, I did receive $5k from the EIDL. This is supposed to be a grant and part of a larger loan that would be available. I have not heard anything more about it. In fact, when the money showed up in my account, I had to google the bank entry to try to figure out where it had come from. It seemed there were MANY people who saw the same thing. Money showed up and they googled where it was coming from.

Next thing I have to do (if I haven't mentioned this already) is figure out how to get my techs off of unemployment and back in the field. Can they refuse to go back because of the virus? Can I fire them if they refuse? I expect them to produce doctor's notes saying they shouldn't be exposed, or are high risk, thus protecting them from being fired. Going to be a pain in the ass. The government is paying them too much money.
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Cakedaddy wrote: Next thing I have to do (if I haven't mentioned this already) is figure out how to get my techs off of unemployment and back in the field. Can they refuse to go back because of the virus? Can I fire them if they refuse? I expect them to produce doctor's notes saying they shouldn't be exposed, or are high risk, thus protecting them from being fired. Going to be a pain in the ass. The government is paying them too much money.
Good luck, cuz I have no idea how this next phase works out until that 13 weeks of federal additional unemployment ends.
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https://www.bioworld.com/articles/43484 ... r-covid-19

I booked one tomorrow at a lab center a few miles away.
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Good luck!
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$$$ showed up today. Still no word from client :(
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TheCatt wrote: I had a dream I got the money :)

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Had a weird dream that the Chinese were taking advantage of the disorder in the US to launch missiles at us. I was near Asheville, NC, and had to explain to someone that Boone was pronounced "Boon" not "Boon-ee" cuz they were from Yankeeland.

I was then in charge of trying to deploy some of our counter-missile stuff, and the web interface was HORRIBLE. It kept being like "select these missiles to counter" and then you'd have to click each one individually, and if you clicked anything the least bit wrong, the entire process would restart, etc. Oh, and I wasn't marred in the dream, and my girlfriend was pregnant.
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People gonna die.
"It's possible there will be some [deaths] because you won't be locked into an apartment or a house or whatever it is," Trump said. The president has argued for states to reopen amid historic job loss. When asked what he would say to the families who lost loved ones, Trump told Muir, "I want to say, 'I love you.' I want to say that we're doing everything we can."
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There are (American-English-speaking) people who think the word Boone has two syllables?
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TheCatt wrote: People gonna die.
"It's possible there will be some [deaths] because you won't be locked into an apartment or a house or whatever it is," Trump said. The president has argued for states to reopen amid historic job loss. When asked what he would say to the families who lost loved ones, Trump told Muir, "I want to say, 'I love you.' I want to say that we're doing everything we can."
I used to argue that destroying the economy was going to hurt more people than riding out the virus, but that position was co-opted by the Trumpers, so I had to stop saying it.

The supply chain for chicken is getting disrupted, I wonder when that will happen to the supply chain for insulin and and chemotherapy drugs.
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GORDON wrote: There are (American-English-speaking) people who think the word Boone has two syllables?
I dunno, it was a dream.
GORDON wrote: The supply chain for chicken is getting disrupted, I wonder when that will happen to the supply chain for insulin and and chemotherapy drugs.
Good news, people don't make medicines side by side in crowded meat packing plants. That being said, some drugs were already interrupted as I posted a while ago due to the Chinese shutdowns. Disruptions haven't been very severe as medicine production is much more automated than chicken processing.

But what should meat processing plants do when half their staff is out with the virus? That's not a "shutdown" stopping the plants, since food processing is considered essential jobs, that's the virus itself.
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Ex's husband works at a meat packing plant, apparently. He and his shift was out for a week because someone he was near was tested positive, and they all had to wait for their own test results.

That isn't them being out with the virus, that's them being out because of our general response to the virus.

They all tested negative, btw.
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