The College Thread
The first panel features four senators — Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.; Dean Heller, R-Nev.; and Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H. All four were original sponsors of the Campus Accountability and Safety Act introduced in 2014, and all four are sponsors on the updated version introduced earlier this year.
Dean should be forced to hand in his balls, or something less valuable, like his Republican party card. Fucking seriously, Dean.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
			
						Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Think of the children, G. It's all for them.GORDON wrote:I am still at a loss as to why college administrations are allowed to deal with felonies.
If I were accused on campus I think I would be heading directly to the real police.... or something. It's insane.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
			
						Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Congress actually considering giving men on campus due process.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2015....tudents
			
			
									
						
							http://www.the-american-interest.com/2015....tudents
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
			
						Frat not helping men's cause.
			
			
									
						
							Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
			
						Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
GORDON wrote:90% of all the incoming women who see that banner were hoping they were good enough to get picked.
The ones who are feminists by 2nd semester will be the ones who weren't picked but wanted to be.
Young girls are dumb, but it doesn't make them all whores nor are they all seeking men's approval.
The guys who hung those signs are the kind who trick or force women and last about 30 seconds.
Those signs are a testament to the immaturity of the male mind, not a telling statement about women.
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
			
						"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Being whores has nothing to do with it, and I will argue with you about 90% of young women not seeking approval from men.Leisher wrote:Young girls are dumb, but it doesn't make them all whores nor are they all seeking men's approval.GORDON wrote:90% of all the incoming women who see that banner were hoping they were good enough to get picked.
The ones who are feminists by 2nd semester will be the ones who weren't picked but wanted to be.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
			
						You could argue it.GORDON wrote:Being whores has nothing to do with it, and I will argue with you about 90% of young women not seeking approval from men.Leisher wrote:Young girls are dumb, but it doesn't make them all whores nor are they all seeking men's approval.GORDON wrote:90% of all the incoming women who see that banner were hoping they were good enough to get picked.
The ones who are feminists by 2nd semester will be the ones who weren't picked but wanted to be.
You'd be wrong.
But you could.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
			
						"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
You are?GORDON wrote:Well I guess the authority has spoken.
I automatically disagreed with you because you said:
90% of all the incoming women who see that banner were hoping they were good enough to get picked.
Excluding lesbians and feminists, you're leaving a ridiculously small percentage for women with self respect. Women who don't actually like dickheads. Women who actually like their parents and their families. Etc.
And while you altered it to this:
I will argue with you about 90% of young women not seeking approval from men.
I still have to apply it to the banners, and not overall life in general. I mean, eventually yes, all straight women will seek the approval of a man that's not her father.
However, I don't think that 90% of young women, in this age of female empowerment, would be attracted by a sign that objectifies them and their mothers.
Hell, if you just want to talk about women's neurosis alone, the signs equated them to their mothers. Nothing makes a woman want to put out more than when a guy compares them to their mothers...
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
			
						"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Leisher wrote:Excluding lesbians and feminists, you're leaving a ridiculously small percentage for women with self respect. Women who don't actually like dickheads. Women who actually like their parents and their families. Etc.
Again, you are making assumptions I never intended. What does wanting to get laid by perceived alpha-males have to do with a lacking of self respect? Not much more faux-alpha than a man stating to you, in front of your father, that he wants to fuck you, and possibly your mother, too. I don't expect an 18 year old girl to know what a real man is.
We've already provided elsewhere the evidence that only about 2% of these girls are going to be lesbians.
I expect 10% of any group to veer away from norms, so 90% is safe.
Am I the expert? I don't know. Maybe. But I didn't just come out and state the other guy could "argue but still be wrong." Here are some actual numbers to support my statement.
Global Beauty Market to hit $265B in 2017.
Wedding industry is worth billions.
Fashion industry: $1.5 trillion.
Vogue magazine: $35 million. Couldn't find the Cosmo numbers. Know others exist but could not think of any other woman magazines to research.
I feel safe to also say that I bet 90% of the people spending money on the above things are women, excluding the weddings which are obviously money being spent ON women.
Basic DNA rules say genes are selfish and want to replicate and 18 year old chicks are prime reproductive fodder.
I feel safe in my "90% of the girls seeing that poster liked it" statement.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
			
						What does wanting to get laid by perceived alpha-males have to do with a lacking of self respect?
Emphasis added. And I think that's your problem. I suspect less than 10% of incoming freshman girls would perceive those fratbrats as alpha males. They would see them as losers.
Maybe later after they've joined some sorority and gotten their heads up the ass of the greek lifestyle, then maybe they'd see them as desirable males. But not until then; right now all they see is assholes with dickish signs.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
			
						You're referring to retail assholery - hand-crafted and delivered to a particular individual - which makes women wet.  This is wholesale assholery.  Completely different and not at all effective.
If it were, those "No = Yes, Yes = Anal" guys would be mobbed by naked coeds.
			
			
									
						
							If it were, those "No = Yes, Yes = Anal" guys would be mobbed by naked coeds.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
			
						I suggest that they are.  Not only are they assholes, they are perceived by these women as having high social standing, as well.  Hell, they are at the top of the only structured social ladder than any campus has.  And as the cliche goes, women are social creatures.   I still think these inexperienced girls see these cocky men as good mating material.
I am not sure of the different flavors of assholery, but I don't think (most) guys in (most) frats have any problems getting laid. I doubt the signs are hurting them.
"OMG I thought all those frat guys were dicks because of all that wholesale asshattery but then I met *FratGuyA and OMG he is not like that, and he's so hot... so now maybe I can fuck him and then fix him."
And then they lie to themselves about what happened, and they lie to themselves about what they wanted and what they did to get it, and another feminist is born to further the myth of the campus rape culture.
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							I am not sure of the different flavors of assholery, but I don't think (most) guys in (most) frats have any problems getting laid. I doubt the signs are hurting them.
"OMG I thought all those frat guys were dicks because of all that wholesale asshattery but then I met *FratGuyA and OMG he is not like that, and he's so hot... so now maybe I can fuck him and then fix him."
And then they lie to themselves about what happened, and they lie to themselves about what they wanted and what they did to get it, and another feminist is born to further the myth of the campus rape culture.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
			
						Goddamn. Bitter much?GORDON wrote:And then they lie to themselves about what happened, and they lie to themselves about what they wanted and what they did to get it, and another feminist is born to further the myth of the campus rape culture.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
			
						Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Well, they got suspended.GORDON wrote:I am not sure of the different flavors of assholery, but I don't think (most) guys in (most) frats have any problems getting laid. I doubt the signs are hurting them.
It's not me, it's someone else.
			
						And now they are among the lowest social class, and they will be getting laid much less.TheCatt wrote:Well, they got suspended.GORDON wrote:I am not sure of the different flavors of assholery, but I don't think (most) guys in (most) frats have any problems getting laid. I doubt the signs are hurting them.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."