The second Obama term

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TPRJones wrote:When was the last time a conservative nominated and got through a justice that was a bitter disappointment to the conservatives? When was the last time a conservative justice tipped a court decision progressive?
Sandra Day O'Conner flipped more than a couple cases liberal. Justice Kennedy has gone with the Liberal majority so many times it's the biggest black mark on Reagan's legacy. Roberts has decided he must protect Obama care at all costs.
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What you've done is list two moderates and complained about how they are moderate. They're also - generally speaking - some of the best justices we've had on the court this century because they take each case on the merits instead of the politics. All because they were nominated by Republican presidents doesn't make them automatically conservative.

I don't know enough about Roberts to comment on his record with Obama's pet causes. I'll have to read up on it.

Here's a couple of interesting charts on the topic:

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Frankly I'm surprised at how often Kennedy has leaned conservative. I thought he was generally more moderate than that. But of course that could be biased based on the issue ratings, so perhaps instead you'd prefer this chart that shows how often they vote together which is independent of such bias. It's pretty clear there's a left block of 3 and a right block of 2.5 and the rest are less polarized. Seems relatively balanced to me.




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Blogger Glenn Reynolds noted that when the South was solidly Democratic, we got "Gone With the Wind" nostalgia. Now that it is profoundly less racist, but also less useful to Democrats, it's the enemy of all that is decent and good.

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DoJ says the won't roundly violate your privacy rights, just yet, unless they don't feel like telling you.
For now, Yates and FBI Director James Comey are appealing to Congress to help them convince U.S. tech companies to retain the ability to access their customers' encrypted data so that the industry can comply with search warrants and court orders to obtain evidence from the electronic devices of suspected terrorists and criminals.

Fuck off.

Companies such as Apple and Google have responded to consumers' demand for privacy and cybersecurity by encrypting cellphone data so that it can only be retrieved by users and not by the companies. The tech giants took that action in part because their customers in Europe and Asia have become wary of using U.S. Internet providers and products for fear that the U.S. government would have access to their personal information.

God forbid companies deliver what the consumer wants instead of the wishes of the aristocrats that rule over him to protect him from everyone else and himself.




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Latest pawn thrown under bus.
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ICE helps kill people.
121 times over the past four years, the administration has released an illegal immigrant with prior criminal convictions who went on to be charged with murder. That is one every 12 days.
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Obamacare fraud. The government paying $ to people who don't exist.
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Stupid, and obvious, but the biggest beneficiaries of obamacare fraud will always be internal, I believe.
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The watchdog agency last summer announced that it had created 12 fake identities and 11 were able to sign up for coverage, qualifying for a total of $2,500 a month in subsidies.

Awesome. A 91.66666667% error rating. That's TSA calibre work, right there. Even after they got flagged, looks like five accounts got reinstated with more cash. Glad I'll be dead in about 100 years.




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Dude gets booed for saying all lives matter.

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Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley apologized on Saturday for saying "All lives matter" while discussing police violence against African-Americans with liberal demonstrators.

Several dozen demonstrators interrupted the former Maryland governor while he was speaking here at the Netroots Nation conference, a gathering of liberal activists, demanding that he address criminal justice and police brutality. When they shouted, "Black lives matter!" a rallying cry of protests that broke out after several black Americans were killed at the hands of police in recent months, O'Malley responded: "Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter."

The demonstrators, who were mostly black, responded by booing him and shouting him down.
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Hillary too.

Apparently some lives are more equal than others.
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I already thought black lives were the only ones that mattered. It's certainly the only ones the MSM covers. Right before Zimmerman shot Martin two white people on a date were car jacked, robbed, kidnapped, beaten, tortured, raped, and murdered in a horrific crime by 4 black people, but it was only covered as local news. Blacks kill more whites annually, by a lot, yet you wouldn't know that watching the news. White people get killed by the police too, including a white kid by a black officer in Utah right after the Michael Brown thing, but the MSM didn't care. The life of the white cop who Michael Brown attacked that night didn't matter. You can go buy a shirt with a swaztika on it, but good luck buying one with a confederate flag because "black lives matter" and apparently Jewish ones don't.

"black lives matter" isn't about healing, it's a grab for power.

Anyone who suggests "all lives matter" isn't a much better phrase during these times is clearly racist.

But hey, let's keep pretending violence and crime isn't celebrated in black culture. Let's keep pretending that cops just need to be less racist and don't need more training and funding so they're not alone in these situations. Let's keep pretending that everyone's just a massive racist because eventually you'll make that a reality.
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Blacks kill more whites annually, by a lot, yet you wouldn't know that watching the news.

What's that old saw about dog bites and news?
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It's not the MSM is racist, it's that telling news in a balanced way doesn't get ratings. To them, only blacks killed by cops matter or mass shootings or white kids that get kidnapped, etc.

I don't know if one of you said it, or a comedian, or a friend/family, but recently I heard someone say, "weird how Chicago doesn't have confederate flags, yet black people are being killed every day and nobody seems to care."




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"weird how Chicago doesn't have confederate flags, yet black people are being killed every day and nobody seems to care."

I'm fairly certain that relates to money. One may not speak ill of cash in this nation.
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Malcolm wrote:
"weird how Chicago doesn't have confederate flags, yet black people are being killed every day and nobody seems to care."
I'm fairly certain that relates to money. One may not speak ill of cash in this nation.
I think the rap culture in this country proves it's not just about money, or a lack of money.
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Oliver Stone has a lot to answer for. Think of all the rappers the Scarface remake inspired. Anyhow, hip-hop isn't everyone. Tupac was content to die as a millionaire drive-by victim. Seems insane to me, but whatever. I believe he's far more the exception than the rule. I think more would prefer the paycheck to the bullet.



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Hilarious image Catt.
Oliver Stone has a lot to answer for. Think of all the rappers the Scarface remake inspired. Anyhow, hip-hop isn't everyone. Tupac was content to die as a millionaire drive-by victim. Seems insane to me, but whatever. I believe he's far more the exception than the rule. I think more would prefer the paycheck to the bullet.


What? Hip Hop isn't everyone? Thank you for pointing that out! I thought all black people were hip hop artists...

My point was that rap is the music of black culture and it's filled with messages about street cred and violence. But yeah, I'm sure it's a total coincidence that the number one music for your black males is rap and the number one cause of death for young black males is young black males.

Also, Tupac isn't the only rapper to die rich. How many rappers get arrested annually on gun charges versus jazz, country, or rock stars?

Let's not pretend that the violence problem in black culture is ONLY about money.
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